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From New York,
this is Democracy Now!

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We’ve learned again
that democracy is precious.

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Democracy is fragile.

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And at this hour, my friends,
democracy has prevailed.

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Joe Biden has been sworn in

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as the 46th president
of the United States.

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Kamala Harris has made history
as the first woman,

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first African American
and first Asian American

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to become vice president.

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I, Kamala Devi Harris,
do solemnly swear...

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I, Kamala Devi Harris,
do solemnly swear...

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We’ll get reaction
to the inauguration

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and Biden’s sweeping
executive actions

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from Harvard professor
Cornel West

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and the pioneering journalist
Maria Hinojosa.

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Plus, we hear the inaugural poem
by 22-year-old Amanda Gorman,

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the youngest inaugural poet
in U.S. history.

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When day comes, we step out
of the shade,

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aflame and unafraid.

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The new dawn blooms
as we free it,

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for there is always light,

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if only we’re brave enough
to see it,

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if only we’re brave
enough to be it.

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All that and more, coming up.

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Welcome to Democracy Now!,
democracynow.org,

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The Quarantine Report.
I’m Amy Goodman.

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Joe Biden was sworn in
as the 46th president

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of the United States Wednesday,

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ending the Trump era
with a call for national unity.

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Speaking on the steps
of a Capitol building

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that just two weeks
prior was mobbed

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by a group
of right-wing extremists

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trying to overturn
the election,

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President Biden said
the U.S. faces

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an unprecedented
combination of challenges

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posed by the COVID-19 pandemic,
mass unemployment,

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racial injustice,
white supremacist violence

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and the existential threat
of climate change.

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And he warned against
the spread of lies —

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in a thinly veiled reference
to the Trump administration’s

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constant stream of falsehoods
over the past four years.

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President Joe Biden:

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"Recent weeks and months have
taught us a painful lesson.

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There is truth,
and there are lies,

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lies told for power
and for profit.

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And each of us has a duty
and a responsibility,

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as citizens, as Americans,
and especially as leaders —

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leaders who have pledged
to honor our Constitution

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and protect our nation —

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to defend the truth
and defeat the lies."

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Biden was administered
the oath of office

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by Chief Justice John Roberts.

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The Supreme Court’s first Latina
justice, Sonia Sotomayor,

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administered the oath
to Vice President Kamala Harris.

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Harris is the first woman,
first African American,

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first Asian American
and first Indian American

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to hold the office.

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We’ll have excerpts from the
inauguration after headlines.

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President Biden signed
17 executive orders

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Wednesday in his first official
act from the Oval Office.

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Among other things,
the orders strike down

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Trump’s ban on travelers
from majority-Muslim nations,

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end construction of Trump’s
border wall and strengthen

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DACA, the Deferred Action
for Childhood

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Arrivals program
for young immigrants.

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Biden rejoined the Paris
climate accord

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and canceled
the Keystone XL pipeline,

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put a moratorium on oil
and gas permits

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in the Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge

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and ordered a review
of Trump’s actions

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undermining public health
and the environment.

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Biden extended a federal
moratorium on evictions

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and a pause on student
loan payments and interest.

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He also ordered the U.S.
to reengage

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with the World
Health Organization

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and ordered a mask mandate
for interstate travelers

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and visitors to federal
buildings during the pandemic.

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Biden’s mask mandate
came as the United States

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recorded one of the deadliest
days of the pandemic,

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with nearly 4,400 deaths.

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The Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention

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forecasts the U.S. death toll
will pass a half-million

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in February,
with 100,000 more deaths

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predicted in just
the next month.

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Biden is set to sign

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10 new executive orders
on the pandemic today

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and will release a new national
strategy to combat COVID-19,

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after the White House
said the Trump administration

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left behind no national
strategy on vaccinations.

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The Biden plan calls
for funding states’

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testing and vaccination
programs;

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improvements in data collection;

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research into new therapies
for COVID-19;

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and the establishment
of a Pandemic Testing Board.

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Biden will also order
the Occupational Safety

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and Health Administration

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to develop workplace protections
against the coronavirus.

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Democrats took narrow control
of the Senate Wednesday

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after Vice President Harris
swore in three new

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Democratic senators:

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Raphael Warnock
and Jon Ossoff of Georgia,

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and Alex Padilla,
who will replace

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Harris in the Senate,
representing California.

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Republicans control 50 seats,
as does the Democratic Caucus,

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with Vice President Harris
serving as a tiebreaker.

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New York Democrat Chuck
Schumer has become

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Senate majority leader,
replacing

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Republican Mitch McConnell
of Kentucky.

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The Senate on Wednesday approved

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Avril Haines as director
of national intelligence.

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Eighty-four senators
voted to confirm Haines,

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and 10 voted against —
all of them

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Republicans.
Haines was President Barack

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Obama’s top lawyer
on the National Security

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Council from 2010 to 2013

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and CIA deputy director
from 2013 to 2015,

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where she authorized
using drone

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strikes to carry out
extrajudicial assassinations.

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The House of Representatives
is set to vote today

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on whether to grant a waiver
to allow retired

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Army General Lloyd
Austin to become Pentagon chief.

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General Austin is on the board
of the weapons contractor

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Raytheon and is a partner
in the venture capital fund

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Pine Island Capital.

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Critics say his nomination
contravenes

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the principle of civilian
control of the military.

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Joe Biden is the first president
in recent history

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to come into office
before any of his key

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advisers are installed.

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As President Biden’s
other Cabinet

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nominees await their hearings
and confirmations,

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he has appointed nearly
two dozen acting officials

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to temporarily lead agencies.

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President Biden has fired
Peter Robb,

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the general counsel
of the National Labor

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Relations Board,
after Robb refused to resign.

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Robb was a Trump appointee,
a former management lawyer

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and fierce union foe
who infamously helped

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President Ronald Reagan

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break the air traffic
controllers’ union in 1981.

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Donald and Melania Trump boarded
Air Force

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One for one final flight
on the presidential aircraft

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Wednesday morning.

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Before flying to his Mar-a-Lago
residence in Florida,

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Trump addressed the crowd
of several hundred

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gathered at Joint Base Andrews.

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Donald Trump:
"So, just a goodbye.

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We love you.

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We will be back
in some form. ...

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So, have a good life.
We will see you soon.

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Thank you. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much. Thank you."

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Trump walked off the stage
to the 1970s disco anthem

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"YMCA."
Frank Sinatra’s "My Way"

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played from the loudspeakers
as Air Force

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One rolled down the runway
and lifted off.

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Massachusetts
Senator Ed Markey, tweeted,

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"Goodbye and good riddance
Donald Trump.

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See you at your trial."

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This comes as Politico reports
lawmakers

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have privately
discussed the possibility

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of a three-day
impeachment trial for

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Trump,
which would be the fastest

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of any such procedure
for a president.

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Proud Boys leader Joe

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Biggs was arrested
in Florida Wednesday

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and charged with helping
to lead the attack on the U.S.

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Capitol on January 6.

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The FBI says Biggs and other
members of his far-right group

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used radios with earpieces
to coordinate

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"real-time communication"

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as they smashed their way
into the building.

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In international news,
the United Kingdom now

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has the highest COVID-19
death rate in the world.

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On Wednesday, a record 1,820
people died across the U.K.

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as hospitals report being
overwhelmed with patients —

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and the worst may
still be to come.

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This is Kelly Clarke,

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an ICU nurse in England’s
Royal Derby Hospital.

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Kelly Clarke:

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"We’ve got staff here who are
absolutely exhausted

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and traumatized.

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A lot of staff are struggling
with their mental health.

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The nurses are coming in
and working extremely hard.

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A lot of them
are doing extra shifts."

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In other international news,
Zimbabwe’s foreign minister,

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Sibusiso Moyo has died
of COVID-19.

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The former Army general
played a key role

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in the 2017 coup
that toppled Robert Mugabe.

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Meanwhile, in Brazil,

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deaths are rising
in the Amazonian city of Manaus

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after hospitals
ran out of oxygen.

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The Bolsonaro government
is facing criticism

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for not helping
avert the crisis

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despite warnings
of looming oxygen shortages.

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In news from Iraq,
at least 28 people died

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and 73 were injured
when two suicide bombers

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attacked a busy market
in Baghdad earlier today.

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No one has taken responsibility

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for what is the first suicide
attack in the city

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in nearly two years.

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Earlier this week,
Iraq’s Cabinet voted to delay

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the upcoming general election
by four months, until October.

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Tony Blinken, Biden’s nominee
for secretary of state,

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said Tuesday
the new administration

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will continue
to recognize Juan Guaidó

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as the president of Venezuela
rather than

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the democratically elected
president, Nicolás Maduro.

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Blinken also said
the U.S. would continue

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to impose harsh sanctions,

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which have crippled
the Venezuelan economy.

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In January 2020, Venezuelan
opposition leader Juan Guaidó

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stormed parliament
with a group of lawmakers

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in an effort
to forcefully swear himself

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in as the country’s leader.

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Guaidó and his supporters were
eventually pushed back by police

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with tear gas outside
of government buildings.

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Guaidó has failed
to consolidate power

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since 2019’s
unsuccessful coup attempt.

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Ongoing U.S. sanctions have
crippled the Venezuelan economy;

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research from the Center
for Economic and Policy Research

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estimates as many
as 40,000 Venezuelans

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have died due to sanctions.

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At least 43 refugees were killed
in a shipwreck

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off Libya’s coast Tuesday.

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The deaths mark the first
known tragedy of 2021

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in the Mediterranean Sea,

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where over 20,000 have drowned
since 2014,

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according to the U.N.

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Ten survivors were
brought back to land,

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including migrants
from Ivory Coast, Nigeria,

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Ghana and Gambia.

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The U.N. says the journey
by sea from Libya to Europe

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is the most dangerous
migration route in the world,

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and one in six people
who attempt it has died.

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Back in the United States,
the Justice Department

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has dropped
an insider trading probe

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against Republican Senator
Richard Burr of North Carolina,

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who sold hundreds of thousands
of dollars of stocks

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early last year after receiving
privileged briefings

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about the threat
of the coronavirus.

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The Justice Department
informed Burr

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of its decision
on Tuesday —

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the last full day
of the Trump administration.

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President Biden has signed
an executive

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order to impose stricter ethics
rules on government workers.

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Biden has banned
so-called golden parachutes,

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when companies give bonuses
to workers

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who leave to enter
the government.

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The order will also bar

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Biden appointees
from lobbying the administration

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if they leave office
before his term ends.

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Government watchdogs are
demanding transparency

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over donations
to Joe Biden

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and Kamala Harris’s
inaugural committee,

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after it accepted gifts of up
to $1 million

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from corporations
and wealthy individuals.

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Major donors to the inaugural
include Amazon,

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Boeing, Capital Group, Comcast,
Fidelity Financial, Google,

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Microsoft, Qualcomm, UPS,
United Airlines and Verizon.

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In 2019, House Democrats
proposed an ethics bill

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that would cap inaugural
donations at $50,000,

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while requiring the online
disclosure of major donors.

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The family of Reality Winner
is urging President Biden

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to free the NSA whistleblower,
who has been behind bars

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for over
three-and-a-half years

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for leaking documents
to The Intercept

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about Russian meddling
in the 2016 elections.

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The ongoing campaign
to free Reality Winner

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has gained renewed urgency as
The Intercept reported this week

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Winner recently faced threats
from a guard

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after she made a report of abuse
against him last March.

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This is Reality Winner’s mother,
Billie Winner-Davis.

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Billie Winner-Davis:

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"Mr. President, my daughter
was jailed, denied bail

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and has been imprisoned for over
three-and-a-half years.

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She has suffered tremendously.

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She has been beaten, injured,
sexually assaulted by her jailer

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and denied
compassionate release. …

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Please, Mr. President,
bring my daughter home."

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And those are some of the
headlines this is Democracy

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Now, Democracynow.org,
the War and Peace Report.

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I’m Amy Goodman.

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AMY GOODMAN: Joe Biden was sworn
in as 46th president

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of the United States Wednesday,

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ending the Trump era
with a call for national unity

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and urging Americans
to come together

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during a period
of turbulence.

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Biden spoke
on the Capitol steps,

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that building that just
two weeks ago

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prior was mobbed by a group
of right-wing extremists

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trying to overthrow
the election.

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PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: 
This is America’s day.

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This is democracy’s day,
a day of history

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and hope,
of renewal and resolve.

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Through a crucible for the ages,
America has been tested anew,

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and America has risen
to the challenge.

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Today, we celebrate the triumph
not of a candidate,

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but of a cause,
the cause of democracy.

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The people — the will
of the people has been heard,

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and the will of the people
has been heeded.

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We’ve learned again
that democracy is precious.

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Democracy is fragile.

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And at this hour, my friends,
democracy has prevailed.

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So, now on this hallowed ground,
where just days ago violence

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sought to shake
the Capitol’s very foundation,

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we come together as one nation,
under God, indivisible,

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to carry out the peaceful
transfer of power

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as we have for more
than two centuries. ...

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This is a great nation.
We are good people.

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And over the centuries,
through storm and strife,

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in peace and in war,
we’ve come so far.

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But we still have far to go.

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We’ll press forward
with speed and urgency,

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for we have much to do
in this winter of peril

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and significant possibilities,
much to repair,

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much to restore, much to heal,
much to build and much to gain.

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Few people in our nation’s
history

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have been more challenged

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or found a time more challenging
or difficult

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than the time we’re in now.

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Once-in-a-century virus
that silently stalks the country

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has taken as many lives
in one year

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as America lost
in all of World War II.

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Millions of jobs
have been lost,

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hundreds of thousands
of businesses closed.

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A cry for racial justice
some 400 years

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in the making moves us.

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The dream of justice for all
will be deferred no longer.

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A cry for survival
comes from the planet itself,

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a cry that can’t be any more
desperate or any more clear.

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And now a rise
of political extremism,

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white supremacy,
domestic terrorism,

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that we must confront
and we will defeat.

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To overcome these challenges,
to restore the soul

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and secure
the future of America,

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requires so much more
than words.

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It requires the most elusive
of all things in a democracy:

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unity.
Unity.

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AMY GOODMAN: That was
President Joe Biden

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in his first address
to the nation.

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Shortly before his speech,

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Supreme Court Justice
Sonia Sotomayor,

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the first Latinx
Supreme Court justice,

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a Puerto Rican daughter
of the Bronx,

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swore in Kamala Harris
as the first-ever woman,

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South Asian
and Black vice president,

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a daughter of Oakland.

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JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: Please
raise your right hand

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and repeat after me.

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I, Kamala Devi Harris,
do solemnly swear ...

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VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: I,
Kamala Devi Harris,

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do solemnly swear ...

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JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: ...
that I will support and defend

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the Constitution
of the United States ...

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VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: 
...

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that I will support
and defend

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the Constitution
of the United States ...

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JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR: ...
against all enemies,

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foreign and domestic.

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VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS:...
against all enemies,

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foreign and domestic.

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AMY GOODMAN: Later on Wednesday
afternoon,

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Vice President Harris
swore in three barrier-breaking

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new Democratic U.S.

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senators, giving Democrats
narrow control of the Senate.

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Reverend Raphael Warnock

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is the first African American
senator from Georgia

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and the first
African American Democratic

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senator from the South.

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Jon Ossoff is the first Jewish
senator from Georgia.

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He’s also the youngest
member of the Senate.

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Alex Padilla,
who replaces Harris

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in the Senate
representing California,

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is the first Latinx senator
to represent California.

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VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: 
The chair lays

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before the Senate
two certificates of election

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for the state of Georgia

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and a certificate of appointment
to fill the vacancy

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created by the resignation
of former Senator Kamala D.

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Harris of California.

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AMY GOODMAN: President Biden
signed 17 executive orders

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in his first official act from
the Oval Office on Wednesday,

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striking down
Trump’s ban on travelers

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from majority-Muslim nations,

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ending construction
of Trump’s border wall

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and strengthening DACA,

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the Deferred Action
for Childhood Arrivals

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program for young immigrants.

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Biden rejoined the Paris
climate accord

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and canceled
the Keystone XL pipeline,

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put a moratorium on permits

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in the Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge,

00:23:17.470 --> 00:23:19.880
ordered a review
of Trump’s actions

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undermining public health
and the environment.

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President Biden extended a
federal moratorium on evictions

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and a pause on student
loan payments and interest.

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Biden also ordered the U.S.

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to reengage with the World
Health Organization

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and ordered a mask mandate

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for interstate travelers
and visitors

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to federal buildings
during the pandemic.

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AMY GOODMAN: For more
on these actions

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of the Biden administration,

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on the overall inauguration
and Inauguration Day itself,

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and what comes next,
not to mention what came before,

00:23:54.800 --> 00:23:56.640
we’re joined by two guests.

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Dr. Cornel West is with us,

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professor of the practice
of public philosophy

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at Harvard University,
author of many books,

00:24:04.580 --> 00:24:08.260
including Race Matters
and Black Prophetic Fire.

00:24:08.260 --> 00:24:11.260
His new podcast is
called The Tight Rope.

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And Maria Hinojosa joins us,
award-winning journalist

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:19.180
and author of the new memoir,
Once I Was You.

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She’s founder of Futuro Media,
host of Latino USA

00:24:23.370 --> 00:24:26.370
and co-host of the podcast
In the Thick.

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We welcome you both back
to Democracy Now!

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Maria Hinojosa,
let’s begin with you.

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If you can talk about
what we watched yesterday,

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from — and later in the day,
the executive orders,

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a number of them
dealing with immigration,

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not to mention a not
exactly perfectly formed

00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.600
immigration plan, or defined,
but some outlines of it,

00:24:52.220 --> 00:24:58.500
but also the swearing in of
the first woman vice president,

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first Caribbean American,
Indian American,

00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.640
African American
vice president,

00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:09.110
daughter of Oakland,
by Sonia Sotomayor,

00:25:09.110 --> 00:25:12.500
the first Latinx
Supreme Court justice?

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MARIA HINOJOSA: Yeah, it was
pretty mind-blowing

00:25:16.490 --> 00:25:18.050
to see that moment, Amy.

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And it’s great to be here
with you and with Cornel on —

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you know, on a new day,

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really, when we’re saying
that it really is a new day.

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And I’m so thrilled
to be here with you

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and your audience and Dr. West
to talk about all of this.

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Now, like you, there were
a lot of mixed emotions.

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I mean, I was getting
very emotional,

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which I was catching myself,

00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.200
because I had
that level of emotion —

00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:43.430
of course, we all did —

00:25:43.430 --> 00:25:46.690
when Barack Obama was elected
and brought into office,

00:25:46.690 --> 00:25:49.000
and we all had these
extraordinary expectations,

00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.270
and then things didn’t
turn out that way.

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So everything was
just kind of like,

00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:54.230
"Oh my god,
this is so beautiful!

00:25:54.230 --> 00:25:55.440
Oh my god,
the United States of America!

00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:56.680
Oh my god, we’re back!"

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And then it was just like,
"Wow! What just happened?"

00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:02.060
My husband kept on saying to me,
"It was by a hair."

00:26:02.060 --> 00:26:03.560
He just looked at me
at one point,

00:26:03.560 --> 00:26:05.780
and he said —
he just went like this.

00:26:05.780 --> 00:26:09.550
By this much,
we didn’t lose this democracy.

00:26:09.550 --> 00:26:11.060
And so, that is real.

00:26:11.060 --> 00:26:14.010
I mean, they were
coming to murder people.

00:26:14.010 --> 00:26:17.400
This was an attempted coup
d’état in the United States,

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and the entire world saw it.

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On the other hand,

00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.970
we are breathing
more freely as journalists.

00:26:25.520 --> 00:26:28.150
We knew that what
we could be facing

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was an even more targeted
assault on us.

00:26:30.570 --> 00:26:33.160
As a journalist who’s Mexican,
an immigrant,

00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:34.990
not born in this country,

00:26:34.990 --> 00:26:37.440
I didn’t know what was going
to come next for me.

00:26:38.010 --> 00:26:39.450
Like that.

00:26:39.450 --> 00:26:42.110
At the same time,
Kamala is vice president.

00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:44.410
This is incredible.
This is extraordinary.

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Dr. Jill Biden continued
working in community colleges.

00:26:47.590 --> 00:26:50.020
So, you know, it was here
in my household.

00:26:50.020 --> 00:26:51.560
My daughter, you know,
who I was just like,

00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:53.310
"Aren’t you emotional?"
And she was like —

00:26:53.310 --> 00:26:56.100
and she very much active
in electoral politics

00:26:56.100 --> 00:26:58.199
for the first time
ever in her life at 22.

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But she just kept on saying,

00:27:00.520 --> 00:27:02.250
"I don’t want people
to just walk away now.

00:27:02.250 --> 00:27:04.470
I don’t want people
to just think it’s all good."

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And so, the work continues.
La luta continúa.

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NERMEEN SHAIKH: And,
Dr. Cornel West,

00:27:10.850 --> 00:27:13.520
if you could respond
to what happened

00:27:13.520 --> 00:27:15.850
yesterday at the inauguration,

00:27:15.850 --> 00:27:20.400
and your sense of what this
new administration might hold?

00:27:22.540 --> 00:27:24.240
CORNEL WEST: Well, again,
I’m just blessed any time

00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:27.490
to be with you, my dear sister,
and Sister Amy, Sister Maria.

00:27:27.490 --> 00:27:30.530
But I was just thinking about
this fundamental pattern

00:27:30.530 --> 00:27:31.840
of American history,

00:27:31.840 --> 00:27:36.600
where 200,000 Black soldiers
had to join the Union Army,

00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:39.180
break the back
of white supremacist slavery,

00:27:39.180 --> 00:27:41.200
Black freedom movement
in the '60s,

00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.499
break the back of white
supremacist apartheid.

00:27:44.020 --> 00:27:46.270
Here again, you've got
Black folk coming to keep us

00:27:46.270 --> 00:27:49.980
going off the neofascist cliff
with the gangster Trump.

00:27:50.910 --> 00:27:52.290
And yet, at the same time,

00:27:52.290 --> 00:27:55.360
Black folk often, in the end,
end up recrucified,

00:27:55.360 --> 00:27:57.870
especially Black poor,
especially Black working class.

00:27:57.870 --> 00:27:59.340
This is a point I think that
Sister Maria

00:27:59.340 --> 00:28:01.820
was making
about the disappointment,

00:28:02.830 --> 00:28:05.590
that there’s a rot
in the system.

00:28:06.390 --> 00:28:11.820
And the rot is corporate greed
and Pentagon militarism.

00:28:11.820 --> 00:28:16.390
And no matter how many people
of color you sprinkle around,

00:28:16.390 --> 00:28:17.700
even in high places,

00:28:17.700 --> 00:28:20.980
if they can’t reshift
that trajectory of the empire,

00:28:21.690 --> 00:28:26.210
then, in fact,
you end up with a deep,

00:28:26.210 --> 00:28:28.360
deep disappointment, you see?

00:28:28.360 --> 00:28:30.010
So, it is a new day.

00:28:30.010 --> 00:28:33.270
I’m so glad we stopped
the neofascist threat.

00:28:33.270 --> 00:28:36.350
I want to thank Aimee Allison
with She the People.

00:28:36.350 --> 00:28:39.180
I want to thank Stacey Abrams,
of course, with Fair

00:28:39.180 --> 00:28:44.370
Fight; Refuse Fascism with
Sister Sunsara and Brother Andy

00:28:44.370 --> 00:28:47.530
— and, actually, I was part of
that myself as a co-initiator.

00:28:47.530 --> 00:28:50.740
But it’s not
just mixed emotions,

00:28:50.740 --> 00:28:55.310
but I’m just now suspicious
of the capitulation

00:28:55.310 --> 00:28:59.910
to the neoliberal greed
and lies and hatred,

00:28:59.910 --> 00:29:04.240
now that we’ve pushed back
the neofascist forms of greed

00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:06.300
and lies and hatred.

00:29:06.300 --> 00:29:08.420
And so,
the issue of poor people,

00:29:08.420 --> 00:29:10.120
the issue of working people,

00:29:10.690 --> 00:29:13.170
that’s going to be
the crucial thing for me.

00:29:13.170 --> 00:29:14.740
And when you look at Biden,
you know, you say,

00:29:14.740 --> 00:29:18.220
"OK, the old Biden is tied to
three crimes against humanity":

00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:20.180
the invasion and occupation
of [Iraq],

00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:22.280
mass incarceration,
especially for young

00:29:22.280 --> 00:29:24.300
Black and Brown brothers
and sisters,

00:29:24.300 --> 00:29:27.360
and then you’ve got
the Wall Street greed unleashed.

00:29:27.360 --> 00:29:29.970
And we haven’t even got to
the vicious Israeli occupation.

00:29:29.970 --> 00:29:31.440
All of those, Biden,

00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.050
the old Biden,
fundamentally tied to,

00:29:34.050 --> 00:29:36.410
used to brag about each
and every one of them.

00:29:36.410 --> 00:29:37.710
We’ll see whether
there’s a new Biden.

00:29:37.710 --> 00:29:40.350
I want to be open.
You know, I’m a person of hope.

00:29:40.350 --> 00:29:44.330
But I wasn’t born at night,
maybe — last night.

00:29:44.330 --> 00:29:46.150
I wasn’t born last night.
Let me put it that way.

00:29:46.150 --> 00:29:47.820
I was born at night,
but not last night.

00:29:47.820 --> 00:29:49.960
We’re going to see.

00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:51.900
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Dr. West,
I’d like to ask you

00:29:51.900 --> 00:29:54.390
about comments that you made
in a recent interview,

00:29:54.390 --> 00:29:56.100
saying that, effectively,

00:29:56.100 --> 00:29:59.260
there’s no democracy
left in America

00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:01.990
because of the nihilism
in the country,

00:30:01.990 --> 00:30:05.890
the various forms of nihilism.
And you talk about the fact

00:30:05.890 --> 00:30:11.110
that the 74 million people
who voted for Trump,

00:30:11.110 --> 00:30:14.320
of which a slim majority
were both women

00:30:14.320 --> 00:30:16.030
and men,
white women and men,

00:30:16.030 --> 00:30:19.460
but also one
out of three Asians,

00:30:19.460 --> 00:30:20.850
one out of three Jews,

00:30:20.850 --> 00:30:23.170
more than one out
of three Latinos,

00:30:23.170 --> 00:30:26.400
and even one out of five
Black men.

00:30:27.020 --> 00:30:30.520
So, could you say
a little bit more about that,

00:30:31.120 --> 00:30:33.160
the range of people
who voted for Trump?

00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.250
And there are
74 million of them.

00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.180
What should happen to them?

00:30:37.180 --> 00:30:40.550
What will happen to them
under this new administration?

00:30:40.550 --> 00:30:44.170
How should they be dealt
with or engaged?

00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:46.470
CORNEL WEST: I think part
of the problem,

00:30:46.470 --> 00:30:47.680
though, my dear sister,

00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.850
is that with the corporate
duopoly of the two parties —

00:30:50.850 --> 00:30:52.240
so, you’ve got
the Republican Party,

00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:53.680
you’ve got the Democratic Party,

00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:55.580
both of them tied
to corporate greed,

00:30:55.580 --> 00:30:58.960
both of them tied
to Pentagon militarism,

00:30:59.500 --> 00:31:01.810
and all of the criminality
that goes with that,

00:31:01.810 --> 00:31:03.900
the drones and so forth
and so on —

00:31:03.900 --> 00:31:06.170
that the deep desperation,

00:31:06.170 --> 00:31:09.010
along with the deep
suffering of people,

00:31:09.010 --> 00:31:11.690
forces them to have to choose
between the two.

00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.340
So, when neoliberal policies
come along

00:31:14.340 --> 00:31:16.710
and you get all the
rationalizers of globalization

00:31:16.710 --> 00:31:18.650
that don’t say a mumbling
word about inequality,

00:31:18.650 --> 00:31:21.560
don’t say a mumbling word about
mass incarceration and so forth,

00:31:21.560 --> 00:31:23.750
that they say,
"OK, let’s try the Democrats."

00:31:23.750 --> 00:31:27.130
Then, boom, 1% walks off
with most of the wealth.

00:31:27.650 --> 00:31:29.210
"Let’s try populism."

00:31:29.210 --> 00:31:31.870
Well, the populism was much more
right-wing than left-wing.

00:31:31.870 --> 00:31:33.730
Many of us with Bernie
tried left-wing.

00:31:33.730 --> 00:31:37.940
The neoliberals crushed us,
unfairly, in many ways.

00:31:37.940 --> 00:31:39.560
So they try the alternative.

00:31:39.560 --> 00:31:42.790
Here comes Trump,
the neofascist pied piper.

00:31:42.790 --> 00:31:45.210
What happened?
They still get crushed.

00:31:45.210 --> 00:31:48.850
How do poor and working people
ever get their voices heard?

00:31:48.850 --> 00:31:50.510
And we know. You know,
you’ve got social scientists

00:31:50.510 --> 00:31:52.040
like Brother Dylan and others

00:31:52.040 --> 00:31:55.180
who say that the voices of
ordinary people are not heard.

00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:57.510
Seventy-two percent
of American citizens

00:31:57.510 --> 00:32:00.170
want Medicare for All.

00:32:00.170 --> 00:32:03.030
Biden, the exemplar of empathy

00:32:03.030 --> 00:32:06.190
and common humanity
and compassion,

00:32:06.190 --> 00:32:09.510
he says he’ll veto that bill
in the middle of a pandemic.

00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.270
That doesn’t look like
too much empathy for me at all.

00:32:13.270 --> 00:32:14.830
What are we talking about here?

00:32:14.830 --> 00:32:17.590
As long as you’ve got
a system with this rot —

00:32:17.590 --> 00:32:20.610
the neoliberal form of the rot,
the neofascist form of the rot —

00:32:20.610 --> 00:32:22.920
we’ve got to have much more
either left populist,

00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.260
much more radical,

00:32:24.260 --> 00:32:27.500
or we’re going to be right back
where we were four years ago,

00:32:27.500 --> 00:32:30.380
because the neoliberal policy
of the old Biden won’t work.

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:32.190
But I’m giving the new
Biden a chance.

00:32:32.190 --> 00:32:35.680
He might be FDR. We’ll see.
He’s got to be bold. We’ll see.

00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.250
I’m not holding my breath,
but we shall see.

00:32:37.250 --> 00:32:39.210
History has
a mystery to it.

00:32:39.940 --> 00:32:41.460
AMY GOODMAN: Former President
Donald Trump

00:32:41.460 --> 00:32:45.180
did not attend
the Biden-Harris inauguration,

00:32:45.180 --> 00:32:48.180
but three of his predecessors
did:

00:32:48.890 --> 00:32:54.070
Presidents Bill Clinton,
George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

00:32:54.070 --> 00:32:58.270
They filmed a video message
to President Biden Wednesday

00:32:58.270 --> 00:33:00.760
while standing in
the Memorial Amphitheater

00:33:00.760 --> 00:33:03.250
at the Arlington
National Cemetery.

00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:06.200
BARACK OBAMA: Obviously,
there was a personal element

00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:10.420
to see my former vice president
become the 46th president,

00:33:10.940 --> 00:33:16.640
to see Kamala Harris as our
first woman vice president.

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.330
But, more broadly,
I think inaugurations signal

00:33:22.970 --> 00:33:25.930
a tradition of a peaceful
transfer of power

00:33:25.930 --> 00:33:28.620
that is over
two centuries old.

00:33:28.620 --> 00:33:30.720
GEORGE W. BUSH: Well, I think
the fact that the three of us

00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.990
are standing here talking about
a peaceful transfer of power

00:33:33.990 --> 00:33:37.850
speaks to the institutional
integrity of our country.

00:33:37.850 --> 00:33:39.380
BILL CLINTON: So, this is
an unusual thing.

00:33:39.380 --> 00:33:42.950
We are both trying
to come back to normalcy,

00:33:43.750 --> 00:33:46.080
deal with totally
abnormal challenges,

00:33:46.930 --> 00:33:48.460
and do what we do best,

00:33:48.460 --> 00:33:50.350
which is try to make
a more perfect union.

00:33:50.350 --> 00:33:51.980
It’s an exciting time.

00:33:51.980 --> 00:33:54.260
AMY GOODMAN: So, I want to put
this question each of you.

00:33:54.260 --> 00:33:57.370
That was President Clinton,
before that, George W. Bush,

00:33:57.370 --> 00:34:01.040
and starting
with President Obama.

00:34:01.040 --> 00:34:02.320
On the one hand,

00:34:02.320 --> 00:34:06.840
this sense that the country
is returning to normalcy,

00:34:06.840 --> 00:34:11.260
to a bipartisan consensus,
but you look at the men —

00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:15.440
you look at George W. Bush,
responsible for how many deaths,

00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.110
invading Afghanistan
and then Iraq;

00:34:18.680 --> 00:34:22.170
you look at President Clinton,
the welfare, so-called,

00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:25.930
reform bill
that led to the impoverishment

00:34:25.930 --> 00:34:27.900
of so many
and mass incarceration,

00:34:27.900 --> 00:34:32.050
which, of course, Joe Biden
was very much a part of;

00:34:32.050 --> 00:34:33.760
and then President Obama,

00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:36.750
called by his closest
immigrant rights

00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:41.200
allies the "deporter-in-chief."
Now, on the other hand,

00:34:41.200 --> 00:34:45.110
you have this slew of executive
orders on the first day.

00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:46.400
As they were recording this,

00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:51.550
you had President Biden signing
off on the executive orders.

00:34:51.550 --> 00:34:55.450
And the executive orders
include fortifying DACA.

00:34:55.450 --> 00:34:57.520
They include,
at least for now,

00:34:57.520 --> 00:34:59.640
halting border
wall construction.

00:35:00.160 --> 00:35:02.550
They approve reversing
the travel ban

00:35:02.550 --> 00:35:06.740
on Muslim-majority countries
and undoing Trump’s expansion

00:35:06.740 --> 00:35:09.810
of immigration enforcement
within the U.S.

00:35:09.810 --> 00:35:11.420
If you can talk about this,

00:35:11.420 --> 00:35:15.430
what a return
to so-called normalcy means,

00:35:15.430 --> 00:35:16.680
and if at this point,

00:35:16.680 --> 00:35:20.080
at this kind of breaking point
in American history,

00:35:20.080 --> 00:35:21.500
does there need to be a break?

00:35:21.500 --> 00:35:23.950
And I’d like to put
that question to both of you,

00:35:25.300 --> 00:35:27.490
starting with professor
Cornel West.

00:35:29.330 --> 00:35:32.150
CORNEL WEST: Well, no,
when I see those three brothers,

00:35:32.150 --> 00:35:34.050
they’re tied to crimes
against humanity —

00:35:34.050 --> 00:35:35.360
there’s no doubt about that —

00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.420
from drones dropped
on innocent people,

00:35:37.940 --> 00:35:40.470
from a Wall Street greed
that crushes poor people

00:35:40.470 --> 00:35:43.540
and actually kills them
concretely and symbolically,

00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:47.520
when you look at the role
that the occupations

00:35:47.520 --> 00:35:49.220
and invasions
have played both —

00:35:49.970 --> 00:35:53.800
not just abroad,
but even here at home,

00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:55.860
military occupations
in our cities.

00:35:56.570 --> 00:35:59.440
You see? So that anytime
you’re head of an empire,

00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:00.670
no matter what color,

00:36:00.670 --> 00:36:02.950
no matter what —
either Democrat or Republican,

00:36:02.950 --> 00:36:04.920
you’re head of an empire,

00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:06.830
you’re going to be tied
to crimes against humanity.

00:36:06.830 --> 00:36:08.920
And I refuse to normalize that.

00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:11.600
You know, I refuse
to just look at Bill Clinton

00:36:11.600 --> 00:36:16.990
and say nothing about a vicious,
vicious crime bill

00:36:16.990 --> 00:36:20.760
and a withdrawal of resources
for people who are hungry.

00:36:21.500 --> 00:36:23.280
You see, just morally
and spiritually,

00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:25.640
that is — that’s wrong.

00:36:26.190 --> 00:36:30.650
And Obama dropping these drones
and bailing out Wall Street

00:36:30.650 --> 00:36:32.390
rather than working people,

00:36:32.390 --> 00:36:35.450
and killing, assassinating
American citizens

00:36:35.450 --> 00:36:37.890
with no no due process at all,

00:36:37.890 --> 00:36:40.170
and he walks around like
he’s some grand progressive.

00:36:40.170 --> 00:36:43.800
Please, get off the crack pipe.
We’ve got to tell the truth.

00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.530
The truth is bigger
than all of us.

00:36:45.530 --> 00:36:48.870
Bush, we won’t even get into,
in terms of the Iraq War

00:36:48.870 --> 00:36:51.110
and so on,
and the lies and so forth.

00:36:51.110 --> 00:36:52.840
This is what we don’t hear
on corporate media.

00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:54.550
Thank God for Democracy Now!

00:36:54.550 --> 00:36:57.930
That God for what you all do,
because we can’t normalize

00:36:57.930 --> 00:37:00.260
this kind of mistreatment
of our fellow human beings.

00:37:00.260 --> 00:37:02.600
So it doesn’t make any
difference what color they are.

00:37:02.600 --> 00:37:03.870
We’re going to check
with Sister Harris

00:37:03.870 --> 00:37:05.460
and see whether
she falls right in step.

00:37:05.460 --> 00:37:08.460
There’s a good chance she will.
Then we have to be critical.

00:37:09.210 --> 00:37:10.910
AMY GOODMAN: And Maria Hinojosa?

00:37:11.790 --> 00:37:14.810
MARIA HINOJOSA: Look,
yes to all of that.

00:37:14.810 --> 00:37:17.560
I mean, for me,
everything that —

00:37:18.090 --> 00:37:19.740
well, let me just start
with the three presidents,

00:37:19.740 --> 00:37:21.030
because I’m right with you.

00:37:21.030 --> 00:37:25.080
I think that —
that is what America is.

00:37:26.590 --> 00:37:32.720
America is that country
that forgets willingly.

00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:37.700
We were all alive. We covered
what happened with Gore v.

00:37:37.700 --> 00:37:39.400
Bush and the Supreme Court

00:37:40.140 --> 00:37:41.960
deciding
who was going to be president.

00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:45.580
That is not a democracy.
You know, in my book, Once I Was

00:37:45.580 --> 00:37:48.250
You, everybody is so just
kind of — their minds are blown,

00:37:48.250 --> 00:37:50.560
because it turns out,
yes, it was

00:37:50.560 --> 00:37:53.300
Bill Clinton, in fact,
who started building the wall.

00:37:53.850 --> 00:37:56.950
It was Bill Clinton who
in fact signed all of those laws

00:37:56.950 --> 00:38:00.200
that led to where we are now,
where people can be put into

00:38:00.200 --> 00:38:02.000
detention,
prison-like conditions,

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:03.899
simply not being born
in this country.

00:38:04.460 --> 00:38:08.260
So, and George W. Bush, please,

00:38:08.260 --> 00:38:12.410
the largest liar, por favor.
Colin

00:38:12.410 --> 00:38:14.560
Powell, we lived through this,
the lies.

00:38:15.670 --> 00:38:17.630
But, on the other hand,

00:38:17.630 --> 00:38:19.640
I actually disagree
with professor,

00:38:19.640 --> 00:38:21.330
my brother, Cornel West in this.

00:38:21.330 --> 00:38:23.480
I don’t believe that democracy
is dead yet.

00:38:24.470 --> 00:38:27.020
And I think this is
the tricky part, right?

00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.820
Because, for example,
more Latinos came out to vote

00:38:30.820 --> 00:38:32.740
than we have ever seen before.

00:38:32.740 --> 00:38:34.520
And this was
extraordinarily important

00:38:34.520 --> 00:38:37.650
because they are
the second-largest voting bloc

00:38:37.650 --> 00:38:39.430
in the United States of America.

00:38:39.430 --> 00:38:41.420
So, the fact that I’m here
talking about this

00:38:41.420 --> 00:38:42.710
is really important,

00:38:42.710 --> 00:38:46.120
because the other side
of the Latino coin for the last,

00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:49.510
what, 50 years
is our invisibility, right?

00:38:50.140 --> 00:38:52.600
Which ties into what Dr. West
was talking about,

00:38:52.600 --> 00:38:54.899
and this is where
I completely agree with him.

00:38:55.610 --> 00:38:58.940
The empire, which needs
the militarization,

00:38:58.940 --> 00:39:01.820
which was built
on mass incarceration,

00:39:01.820 --> 00:39:06.090
which is slowly being —
slowly being deconstructed —

00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:09.380
slowly, OK, slowly — but what is
it going to be replaced with?

00:39:10.650 --> 00:39:15.020
The immigration-industrial mass
complex, that’s what it’s being.

00:39:15.020 --> 00:39:18.520
So, the immigration plan
that Joe Biden said,

00:39:18.520 --> 00:39:21.610
it’s amazing that he is going to
cut off the "Remain in Mexico"

00:39:21.610 --> 00:39:25.190
policy for refugees.
But he said,

00:39:25.190 --> 00:39:26.950
"But if you’re there,
you have to remain there now.

00:39:26.950 --> 00:39:28.880
You can’t move."
It’s like, what does this mean?

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.580
We’re going to have
immigration reform;

00:39:30.580 --> 00:39:32.480
it’s just going to
take eight years.

00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.050
In eight years, there could be
a new administration.

00:39:35.050 --> 00:39:37.520
Everybody knows that.
Eight years?

00:39:38.500 --> 00:39:44.260
So, I’m only hoping that
what I want to see around me

00:39:44.260 --> 00:39:46.110
is more people understanding
that democracy

00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:47.950
is not just about a vote.

00:39:47.950 --> 00:39:50.520
It is about everything.
It is about Democracy Now!

00:39:50.520 --> 00:39:52.330
It’s about Cornel West
and his professorship.

00:39:52.330 --> 00:39:54.570
It’s about the work
that I do at Futuro Media,

00:39:54.570 --> 00:39:57.450
the books we write,
the conversations we have.

00:39:57.450 --> 00:39:59.590
I’m a little bit
in Trump territory

00:39:59.590 --> 00:40:03.080
here in Bethlehem, Connecticut,
and I’m having to find my way

00:40:03.080 --> 00:40:06.360
to have these conversations
with my neighbors.

00:40:07.190 --> 00:40:10.050
And I do that
because that’s my job

00:40:11.030 --> 00:40:12.280
and because it’s my civic duty,

00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.490
because I chose to become
an American citizen.

00:40:14.490 --> 00:40:15.820
So, all of this,

00:40:15.820 --> 00:40:18.340
for someone who chose
to become an American citizen,

00:40:18.340 --> 00:40:20.490
oh, hell, yes,
but who was also around

00:40:20.490 --> 00:40:23.050
when Nixon was the first one
who I saw impeached.

00:40:23.050 --> 00:40:24.430
So, we’re not going away.

00:40:24.430 --> 00:40:28.110
And this fire, this fire
that we have for this dynamic,

00:40:28.110 --> 00:40:30.940
this capacity to not all be
on the same page,

00:40:31.530 --> 00:40:34.770
that is what democracy
looks like. We need more of it.

00:40:36.770 --> 00:40:39.030
NERMEEN SHAIKH: And I’d like
to ask each of you —

00:40:39.030 --> 00:40:41.420
Maria, if you could begin —
what do you think —

00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:46.660
now the Democrats are in control
of the House and of the Senate.

00:40:46.660 --> 00:40:49.110
What do you think
the priorities should be?

00:40:49.110 --> 00:40:53.010
And also, how
can more progressive Democrats

00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:55.180
push the Biden-Harris
administration

00:40:55.900 --> 00:41:00.440
to pursue policies
that will differentiate

00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.170
this Democrat administration
from the Obama one?

00:41:05.090 --> 00:41:06.710
Maria, if you could begin?

00:41:06.710 --> 00:41:08.370
MARIA HINOJOSA: Yeah.
Well, look, if you ask me —

00:41:08.370 --> 00:41:10.730
and I suppose I’m a little bit
of a radical on this —

00:41:10.730 --> 00:41:12.010
what I would do,

00:41:12.010 --> 00:41:15.330
because, you know, we are much
stronger than we think,

00:41:15.330 --> 00:41:17.290
that we’ve been able
to live through this pandemic

00:41:17.290 --> 00:41:19.780
and staying home
and not seeing anyone,

00:41:19.780 --> 00:41:21.710
not hugging people,
not seeing our family,

00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:26.430
but I want it to stop.
I would do a full shutdown.

00:41:26.430 --> 00:41:29.790
I would. And I would pay people.
I would pay people.

00:41:29.790 --> 00:41:34.180
I would have checks going out
so that people can be home,

00:41:35.090 --> 00:41:37.900
that we’re protecting the most
essential workers, really,

00:41:37.900 --> 00:41:41.110
so that the economy and people
can chill out and relax

00:41:41.110 --> 00:41:43.440
and not be freaking out
at this point.

00:41:44.430 --> 00:41:47.250
And that takes care of COVID
and the economy,

00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:49.760
I think, you know,
inspiring the economy.

00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:51.320
Immigration reform, you know,

00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:54.690
people see it as kind
of an issue.

00:41:54.690 --> 00:41:57.140
Do you understand that if you
were to do massive immigration

00:41:57.140 --> 00:41:58.370
reform right now —

00:41:58.370 --> 00:42:00.650
and I’m talking
like in three years —

00:42:00.650 --> 00:42:03.490
what that would do to boost
the American economy

00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:05.810
across the board?

00:42:05.810 --> 00:42:09.480
So, I kind of feel like
the neoliberalism stops

00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.280
this administration

00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.160
from being what they think
is going to be called radical.

00:42:14.160 --> 00:42:16.700
And what I say — and I know
what both of you say, too —

00:42:16.700 --> 00:42:18.600
is, this is not radical.

00:42:18.600 --> 00:42:22.080
What is radical is taking
the uterus from a woman

00:42:22.080 --> 00:42:24.040
simply because she was not born
in this country.

00:42:24.040 --> 00:42:26.920
What’s radical is putting
children in cages.

00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:29.070
What’s radical is
a police officer

00:42:29.070 --> 00:42:31.280
murdering a Black man
for doing nothing,

00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:36.240
while being captured on camera.
That is radical. The solutions —

00:42:36.240 --> 00:42:38.770
and the question here
for the Biden administration —

00:42:38.770 --> 00:42:39.990
we’re on the same page here —
is:

00:42:39.990 --> 00:42:42.080
Can you change the narrative?

00:42:42.080 --> 00:42:47.640
Can you take accountability,
apologize in a very big way,

00:42:47.640 --> 00:42:51.190
the both of them,
so that we can begin to trust

00:42:51.190 --> 00:42:52.700
that there will be
a deeper commitment

00:42:52.700 --> 00:42:55.110
to this real new day
that we want to get to?

00:42:57.500 --> 00:42:58.930
NERMEEN SHAIKH: And Dr. West?

00:42:58.930 --> 00:43:01.760
CORNEL WEST: Indeed. Yeah, no,
I’m with my dear Sister Maria.

00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:05.940
In fact, I would even go further
in embracing Sister Maria here

00:43:05.940 --> 00:43:07.690
— and you tell me
what you think, my sister —

00:43:07.690 --> 00:43:09.490
that, see, I would say,

00:43:09.490 --> 00:43:13.010
as long as there’s persons
like all of us,

00:43:13.010 --> 00:43:16.250
as long as there’s
artists like Yolanda

00:43:16.250 --> 00:43:19.240
Adams, as long as there’s poets
like Sister Amanda

00:43:19.980 --> 00:43:21.460
and Gabrielle,
her sister,

00:43:21.460 --> 00:43:25.410
and Joan, her mother,
that democracy is alive

00:43:25.410 --> 00:43:27.510
in the hearts
and minds of people.

00:43:28.580 --> 00:43:30.070
And as long as we’re willing
to fight,

00:43:30.070 --> 00:43:31.560
as long as we’re willing
to tell the truth,

00:43:31.560 --> 00:43:33.250
as long as we’re willing
to hold onto integrity

00:43:33.250 --> 00:43:35.190
as opposed
to superficial popularity,

00:43:36.070 --> 00:43:39.110
democracy is alive in the hearts
and minds of people.

00:43:39.110 --> 00:43:42.520
But it’s our structures that
are profoundly anti-democratic.

00:43:42.520 --> 00:43:44.990
It’s the big money.
It’s the lobbyists.

00:43:44.990 --> 00:43:47.390
It’s the Wall Street greed.
It’s Big Tech greed.

00:43:48.060 --> 00:43:50.210
That’s what stands in the way.
It’s the white supremacy

00:43:50.210 --> 00:43:52.110
and the male supremacy
and so forth and so on,

00:43:52.110 --> 00:43:55.340
the hatred of gays and lesbians
and trans

00:43:55.340 --> 00:43:58.100
and nonbinaries and so forth,
so that, in that way,

00:43:58.100 --> 00:44:00.330
there’s always
a struggle going on.

00:44:00.330 --> 00:44:04.060
So, if I were asked what
the Biden administration

00:44:04.060 --> 00:44:05.470
ought to do,
they ought to look

00:44:05.470 --> 00:44:08.370
at the 14 points
of the Poor People’s Campaign,

00:44:08.370 --> 00:44:11.320
that my dear Sister Theoharis
and my dear Brother Barber,

00:44:11.930 --> 00:44:15.590
they lay it out —
massive cuts in military,

00:44:15.590 --> 00:44:18.530
fundamental investment
in schools,

00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:21.530
in housing, in jobs
with a living wage,

00:44:21.530 --> 00:44:24.510
the empowerment of
the trade union movement,

00:44:24.510 --> 00:44:26.670
the defense of rights
and liberties.

00:44:26.670 --> 00:44:28.790
And this is very,
very important, you see,

00:44:28.790 --> 00:44:30.490
because when Bidens talk about —

00:44:31.220 --> 00:44:33.290
critiquing white supremacy
is a beautiful thing.

00:44:33.290 --> 00:44:36.050
We’ve never had a president talk
about white supremacy like that.

00:44:36.050 --> 00:44:38.270
Even Obama,
with two inaugural speeches,

00:44:38.270 --> 00:44:40.520
never talked about
white supremacy like that.

00:44:41.390 --> 00:44:43.700
But when he talks
about domestic terrorists,

00:44:43.700 --> 00:44:46.380
the next thing you know,
I’m a domestic terrorist,

00:44:46.380 --> 00:44:48.610
because I’m critical
of Israeli occupation.

00:44:48.610 --> 00:44:50.570
If I’m critical
of any form of Zionism

00:44:50.570 --> 00:44:52.700
by using the very term
"Zionism,"

00:44:52.700 --> 00:44:54.820
that makes me
an enemy of the state.

00:44:54.820 --> 00:44:56.160
So we have to be very clear

00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:59.480
that we’re not for massive
repression and censorship

00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:01.160
and the defense of rights
and liberties,

00:45:01.160 --> 00:45:04.090
even as we’re against white
supremacy and male supremacy

00:45:04.090 --> 00:45:05.400
and any other ideology

00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.100
that leaves aside
the humanity of people.

00:45:08.100 --> 00:45:10.560
And this is going to be
a very important challenge,

00:45:10.560 --> 00:45:13.590
but we must raise our voices
no matter what,

00:45:13.590 --> 00:45:16.260
based in part on what
the Poor People’s Campaign

00:45:16.260 --> 00:45:18.050
and other progressives
are doing,

00:45:18.050 --> 00:45:23.700
not the fashionable, glitzy
neoliberals who trot around

00:45:23.700 --> 00:45:26.070
as if they are progressives

00:45:26.070 --> 00:45:29.730
but in fact are
in the hip pocket of Wall Street

00:45:29.730 --> 00:45:33.740
and corporate greedy elites
and Big Tech elites

00:45:33.740 --> 00:45:36.660
and military
militaristic elites.

00:45:36.660 --> 00:45:37.990
That’s going to be
the challenge.

00:45:37.990 --> 00:45:40.750
And that’s the legacy
of our dear brother this week,

00:45:40.750 --> 00:45:42.180
Martin Luther King Jr.

00:45:42.180 --> 00:45:45.540
That’s what is so powerful
in the poetry of Sister Gorman

00:45:45.540 --> 00:45:47.380
and the music of Yolanda Adams,

00:45:47.380 --> 00:45:50.610
if we listen very closely
and let it touch our souls.

00:45:51.210 --> 00:45:54.400
AMY GOODMAN: Speaking of Martin
Luther King and others,

00:45:55.280 --> 00:46:00.250
the new Oval Office decor
has busts of Martin Luther King

00:46:00.250 --> 00:46:05.350
and César Chávez and Eleanor
Roosevelt and Rosa Parks,

00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:10.000
among others,
along with a portrait of FDR.

00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:12.560
We’re going to get final
comments from Maria Hinojosa

00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:15.990
and Dr. Cornel West
after break

00:46:15.990 --> 00:46:21.150
and after we play
this remarkable five minutes

00:46:21.150 --> 00:46:22.960
during the inauguration,

00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:26.690
the youngest inaugural poet
in U.S. history.

00:46:26.690 --> 00:46:27.980
Stay with us.

00:46:27.980 --> 00:47:43.330
[break]

00:47:43.330 --> 00:47:46.810
AMY GOODMAN: Texas band Black
Pumas singing "Colors,"

00:47:46.810 --> 00:47:49.530
from last night’s
"Celebrating America"

00:47:49.530 --> 00:47:51.640
inaugural concert program.

00:47:51.640 --> 00:47:52.980
AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy
Now!,

00:47:52.980 --> 00:47:56.610
democracynow.org,
The Quarantine Report.

00:47:56.610 --> 00:47:59.120
I’m Amy Goodman,
with Nermeen Shaikh.

00:47:59.120 --> 00:48:01.980
One of the most
remarkable moments

00:48:01.980 --> 00:48:04.930
of Wednesday’s
inaugural ceremony

00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:10.840
came from the inaugural poet,
Amanda Gorman of Los Angeles.

00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:14.700
She’s the youngest poet
in U.S. history

00:48:14.700 --> 00:48:18.480
to address
a presidential inauguration.

00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:21.510
She became the youth poet
laureate of Los Angeles

00:48:21.510 --> 00:48:24.770
at the age of 16 in 2014

00:48:24.770 --> 00:48:27.410
and then the first national
youth poet laureate.

00:48:28.670 --> 00:48:34.190
The 22-year-old poet read her
poem "The Hill We Climb."

00:48:34.890 --> 00:48:38.510
She finished it right
after the riot

00:48:38.510 --> 00:48:40.720
at the Capitol
earlier this month.

00:48:41.410 --> 00:48:45.740
Her words captured the nation.
This is Amanda Gorman.

00:48:46.970 --> 00:48:51.630
AMANDA GORMAN: Mr. President,
Dr. Biden, Madam

00:48:51.630 --> 00:48:58.030
Vice President, Mr. Emhoff,
Americans and the world.

00:48:59.210 --> 00:49:01.660
When day comes,
we ask ourselves,

00:49:01.660 --> 00:49:06.140
"Where can we find light in this
never-ending shade,

00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.110
the loss we carry,
a sea we must wade?"

00:49:10.110 --> 00:49:13.310
We’ve braved the belly
of the beast.

00:49:13.310 --> 00:49:17.340
We’ve learned that quiet
isn’t always peace,

00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:20.810
and the norms and notions
of what "just is"

00:49:21.390 --> 00:49:23.810
isn’t always justice.

00:49:25.520 --> 00:49:29.340
And yet, the dawn is ours
before we knew it.

00:49:29.340 --> 00:49:30.780
Somehow we do it.

00:49:30.780 --> 00:49:34.370
Somehow we’ve weathered
and witnessed

00:49:34.370 --> 00:49:39.790
a nation that isn’t broken,
but simply unfinished.

00:49:39.790 --> 00:49:43.650
We, the successors of a country
and a time

00:49:43.650 --> 00:49:45.730
where a skinny Black girl,

00:49:45.730 --> 00:49:47.420
descended from slaves

00:49:47.420 --> 00:49:49.710
and raised by a single mother,

00:49:49.710 --> 00:49:52.240
can dream of becoming president,

00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:55.920
only to find herself
reciting for one.

00:49:57.200 --> 00:50:01.440
And yes, we are far from
polished, far from pristine,

00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:03.590
but that doesn’t mean
we are striving

00:50:03.590 --> 00:50:06.060
to form a union
that is perfect.

00:50:06.770 --> 00:50:11.990
We are striving to forge
our union with purpose,

00:50:11.990 --> 00:50:16.380
to compose a country
committed to all cultures,

00:50:16.380 --> 00:50:20.140
colors, characters
and conditions of man.

00:50:20.740 --> 00:50:24.820
And so we lift our gazes not to
what stands between us,

00:50:24.820 --> 00:50:27.580
but what stands before us.

00:50:27.580 --> 00:50:29.330
We close the divide,

00:50:29.330 --> 00:50:31.700
because we know,
to put our future first,

00:50:31.700 --> 00:50:34.260
we must first put
our differences aside.

00:50:34.260 --> 00:50:36.100
We lay down our arms

00:50:36.100 --> 00:50:39.100
so we can reach out our arms
to one another.

00:50:39.100 --> 00:50:42.530
We seek harm to none
and harmony for all.

00:50:42.530 --> 00:50:47.790
Let the globe, if nothing else,
say this is true:

00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:51.530
that even as we grieved,
we grew;

00:50:51.530 --> 00:50:53.660
that even as we hurt, we hoped;

00:50:53.660 --> 00:50:55.950
that even as we tired, we tried;

00:50:55.950 --> 00:50:59.430
that we’ll forever be tied
together victorious,

00:50:59.430 --> 00:51:03.150
not because we will never again
know defeat,

00:51:03.860 --> 00:51:08.290
but because we will never again
sow division.

00:51:09.190 --> 00:51:10.900
Scripture tells us to envision

00:51:10.900 --> 00:51:15.360
that "Everyone shall sit under
their own vine and fig tree.

00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:17.670
And no one shall
make them afraid."

00:51:18.500 --> 00:51:20.810
If we’re to live up
to our own time,

00:51:20.810 --> 00:51:23.180
then victory won’t lie
in the blade,

00:51:23.180 --> 00:51:25.700
but in all the bridges
we’ve made.

00:51:25.700 --> 00:51:28.040
That is the promise to glade,

00:51:28.040 --> 00:51:31.000
the hill we climb,
if only we dare it,

00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:36.320
because being American
is more than a pride we inherit.

00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:40.550
It’s the past we step into
and how we repair it.

00:51:41.240 --> 00:51:44.320
We’ve seen a force that would
shatter our nation

00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.000
rather than share it,

00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:47.630
would destroy our country

00:51:47.630 --> 00:51:49.920
if it meant delaying democracy.

00:51:50.790 --> 00:51:53.380
And this effort
very nearly succeeded.

00:51:54.410 --> 00:51:57.950
But while democracy can be
periodically delayed,

00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.620
it can never be
permanently defeated.

00:52:02.410 --> 00:52:05.120
In this truth, in this faith,
we trust,

00:52:05.120 --> 00:52:07.440
for while we have our eyes
on the future,

00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.600
history has its eyes on us.

00:52:10.600 --> 00:52:13.590
This is the era
of just redemption

00:52:13.590 --> 00:52:15.770
we feared at its inception.

00:52:15.770 --> 00:52:17.300
We did not feel prepared

00:52:17.300 --> 00:52:20.280
to be the heirs
of such a terrifying hour,

00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.330
but within it we found the power

00:52:22.330 --> 00:52:24.470
to author a new chapter,

00:52:24.470 --> 00:52:27.080
to offer hope and laughter
to ourselves.

00:52:27.080 --> 00:52:30.780
So while once we asked,

00:52:30.780 --> 00:52:34.610
"How could we possibly prevail
over catastrophe?"

00:52:35.200 --> 00:52:37.430
now we assert,

00:52:38.220 --> 00:52:43.060
"How could catastrophe
possibly prevail over us?"

00:52:43.060 --> 00:52:45.430
We will not march back
to what was,

00:52:45.430 --> 00:52:47.430
but move to what shall be:

00:52:47.430 --> 00:52:49.870
a country that is bruised
but whole,

00:52:49.870 --> 00:52:51.580
benevolent but bold,

00:52:51.580 --> 00:52:53.040
fierce and free.

00:52:53.040 --> 00:52:57.950
We will not be turned around
or interrupted by intimidation,

00:52:57.950 --> 00:53:01.580
because we know our inaction
and inertia

00:53:01.580 --> 00:53:04.370
will be the inheritance
of the next generation.

00:53:04.370 --> 00:53:06.990
Our blunders
become their burdens.

00:53:06.990 --> 00:53:08.830
But one thing is certain:

00:53:10.240 --> 00:53:12.750
If we merge mercy with might,

00:53:13.290 --> 00:53:14.990
and might with right,

00:53:15.510 --> 00:53:18.980
then love becomes our legacy

00:53:18.980 --> 00:53:22.220
and change,
our children’s birthright.

00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.290
So let us leave behind a country

00:53:25.290 --> 00:53:27.120
better than the one
we were left.

00:53:27.120 --> 00:53:29.910
With every breath
from my bronze-pounded chest,

00:53:29.910 --> 00:53:33.650
we will raise this wounded world
into a wondrous one.

00:53:33.650 --> 00:53:36.980
We will rise from the
gold-limbed hills of the West.

00:53:36.980 --> 00:53:39.450
We will rise from the wind-swept
Northeast,

00:53:39.450 --> 00:53:42.140
where our forefathers
first realized revolution.

00:53:42.140 --> 00:53:44.620
We will rise from
the lake-rimmed cities

00:53:44.620 --> 00:53:46.250
of the Midwestern states.

00:53:46.250 --> 00:53:48.190
We will rise from
the sun-baked South.

00:53:48.190 --> 00:53:51.620
We will rebuild,
reconcile and recover.

00:53:51.620 --> 00:53:53.840
In every known nook
of our nation,

00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.290
in every corner
called our country,

00:53:56.290 --> 00:53:58.900
our people, diverse
and beautiful,

00:53:58.900 --> 00:54:00.890
will emerge battered
and beautiful.

00:54:00.890 --> 00:54:04.090
When day comes,
we step out of the shade,

00:54:04.090 --> 00:54:05.940
aflame and unafraid.

00:54:05.940 --> 00:54:09.180
The new dawn blooms
as we free it,

00:54:09.180 --> 00:54:11.070
for there is always light,

00:54:11.070 --> 00:54:13.780
if only we’re brave enough
to see it,

00:54:13.780 --> 00:54:17.430
if only we’re brave enough
to be it.

00:54:24.230 --> 00:54:27.910
AMY GOODMAN: Twenty-two-year-old
Amanda Gorman,

00:54:27.910 --> 00:54:31.890
the youngest inaugural poet
in U.S. history.

00:54:32.970 --> 00:54:34.410
This is Democracy Now!,

00:54:34.410 --> 00:54:39.120
as we end our conversation
with Dr. Cornel West,

00:54:39.120 --> 00:54:41.870
professor of the practice
of public philosophy

00:54:41.870 --> 00:54:43.230
at Harvard University,

00:54:43.230 --> 00:54:46.230
and award-winning journalist
Maria Hinojosa.

00:54:47.310 --> 00:54:50.930
In the last few minutes we have,
Professor West,

00:54:50.930 --> 00:54:55.990
you were in Charlottesville,
Virginia, when the Klan marched,

00:54:55.990 --> 00:54:58.330
when the white
supremacists marched.

00:54:58.330 --> 00:55:02.700
Amanda was writing her poem
through the riot,

00:55:02.700 --> 00:55:05.540
the white supremacist attack
on the Capitol.

00:55:05.540 --> 00:55:07.240
Your final thoughts?

00:55:08.770 --> 00:55:10.810
CORNEL WEST: Just that we say
to Brother Biden, you know,

00:55:10.810 --> 00:55:13.750
when he stood on the floor
the Senate, November 18, 1993,

00:55:13.750 --> 00:55:16.570
and said, "These young
Black folk are predators

00:55:16.570 --> 00:55:20.310
on the street beyond the pale,
to be taken out of society,"

00:55:20.940 --> 00:55:23.030
if you’re going to talk
about empathy,

00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:28.590
you ought to extend your empathy
to the cousins of the brilliant,

00:55:28.590 --> 00:55:32.340
visionary poet Amanda
on that street.

00:55:32.340 --> 00:55:35.820
They’re human beings,
even when they’re incarcerated.

00:55:35.820 --> 00:55:38.750
Extend your sympathy
to the immigrants

00:55:38.750 --> 00:55:40.280
trying to make their way,

00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:42.850
often coming into a country
that used to be theirs,

00:55:42.850 --> 00:55:46.530
our Mexican brothers.
Extend your sympathy to poor,

00:55:46.530 --> 00:55:48.150
no matter what color,
working-class,

00:55:48.150 --> 00:55:53.990
no matter what color — yes,
Jewish folk hated in France,

00:55:54.560 --> 00:55:57.650
Palestinians hated
on the West Bank.

00:55:57.650 --> 00:56:01.840
Where is your concrete
empathy and compassion

00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:03.760
and acknowledging
common humanity?

00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:06.710
That’s the kind of pressure
that he’s going have to expect

00:56:06.710 --> 00:56:09.720
from love warriors,
freedom fighters,,

00:56:09.720 --> 00:56:13.780
like both myself
and the Amanda Gormans,

00:56:13.780 --> 00:56:19.020
with memories of Sojourner Truth
and Harriet Tubman

00:56:19.020 --> 00:56:20.550
and Toni Morrison,

00:56:20.550 --> 00:56:22.250
and John Coltrane’s
Love Supreme.

00:56:24.740 --> 00:56:26.800
NERMEEN SHAIKH: And, Maria,
your final thoughts?

00:56:27.510 --> 00:56:30.320
MARIA HINOJOSA: Wow! Just also
Frederick Douglass and Ida B.

00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.890
Wells, my founding fathers
and founding mothers, right?

00:56:32.890 --> 00:56:34.180
That’s why we do this.

00:56:34.180 --> 00:56:37.460
Look, the only thing that I —
and I’m trying to stay inspired.

00:56:37.980 --> 00:56:42.480
I really am. Because, otherwise,
what happens?

00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.170
So, we just have to realize
that those of us

00:56:46.170 --> 00:56:48.620
who have this understanding
of what democracy

00:56:48.620 --> 00:56:52.240
looks like got to deepen it.
OK, sometimes you can chill.

00:56:52.240 --> 00:56:54.120
You’ve got to take a —
you know, relax, whatever.

00:56:54.120 --> 00:56:56.330
I understand.
But we deepen it.

00:56:56.990 --> 00:56:58.910
That’s why I love being on
with both you, Amy,

00:56:58.910 --> 00:57:00.930
who I’ve known for years,
and Brother West,

00:57:00.930 --> 00:57:02.980
is because there’s
such a humanity here.

00:57:02.980 --> 00:57:06.030
And I think that if Joe Biden
and Kamala can do something,

00:57:06.030 --> 00:57:08.600
it would be to actually
try to humanize,

00:57:08.600 --> 00:57:10.030
as Cornel was saying,

00:57:10.030 --> 00:57:13.590
the brothers and sisters
of our dear poet,

00:57:14.100 --> 00:57:15.800
of Amanda,
of so many — right?

00:57:16.390 --> 00:57:20.200
— to humanize those who were
not born here, like myself.

00:57:20.200 --> 00:57:23.290
So, this is our challenge.
As I tell my students —

00:57:23.290 --> 00:57:25.590
I’m about to start teaching
any minute now at Barnard,

00:57:25.590 --> 00:57:26.930
and I’ll tell my students:

00:57:26.930 --> 00:57:28.430
There are some days
when you cannot,

00:57:28.430 --> 00:57:33.030
in fact, be that unifier.
So don’t try it on those days.

00:57:33.030 --> 00:57:34.940
On the days when
you can have dialogue, yes.

00:57:34.940 --> 00:57:37.410
But you know what?
At the same time now,

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maybe this isn’t a time
for that right now.

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Give ourselves
a little bit of a break

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also to take critical pause
for what we’re seeing

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and to understand, finally,

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we are much stronger
than we think.

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We never thought
we could make it this far.

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But also,
we did not all make it.

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We did not all make it.

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And so, for that,
I’m very sorry.

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But I’m looking at the sun,
and I’m incredibly hopeful.

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Nature is what grounds me,

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and I hope it grounds
the both of you, too —

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the three of you.

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It’s been such a pleasure
to be with all of you.

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AMY GOODMAN: We thank you
so much for being here

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on this post-inauguration
broadcast,

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Maria Hinojosa,
award-winning journalist,

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author and professor,
and Dr. Cornel West,

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professor of the practice
of public philosophy

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at Harvard University.

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