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White House spokesperson Scott McClellan has been besieged the past two days at press briefings, with many journalists pummeling away with question after question about the involvement of Karl Rove in the outing of an undercover CIA operative. The White House has done an about face from 2003 when it adamantly denied any involvement on the part of Rove in the leak. We play an excerpt of Tuesday’s hearing. [includes rush transcript]
AMY GOODMAN: McClellan has tried to end all discussion of the case by saying it’s an ongoing investigation. Here’s some of the melee from Tuesday’s White House press briefing.
REPORTER: But isn’t the difficulty that you have said to the public, dating back to 2003, affirmatively, Karl Rove is not involved, and now we have evidence to the contrary? So how do you reconcile those two things? How does the President reconcile those two things?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Again, if I were to get into discussing this, I would be getting into discussing an investigation that continues and could be prejudging the outcome of the investigation. I’m not going to do that from this podium. You do point out some statements that were made. I remember well the comments that were made. After that point, I also remember going and testifying in this investigation. I remember well individuals who are involved overseeing this investigation expressing their preference personally to me that we not get into discussing what is an ongoing investigation. I think that’s the way to be most helpful as they move forward, and that’s why I’m in the position that I am. I’m not going to get into jumping on every news report as the investigation continues and trying to comment on them, because I don’t think that’s helpful. So I think you have to step back from any individual news story or individual reports. Let’s let the investigation take place. I look forward to talking about some of these matters once the investigation is complete. I welcome the opportunity to talk about some of these questions, but I don’t think it’s appropriate to do so at this time.
REPORTER: Let’s just —- just one final -—
SCOTT McCLELLAN: And I think the American people can understand and appreciate that.
REPORTER: Well, we’ll see. But I just have one final question on this. The question of whether a law has been broken, a crime committed, is a separate matter. You’re not going to resolve that; that’s for a grand jury to decide. But we know what the facts are. We know that Karl Rove spoke about Joseph Wilson’s wife, referring to the fact that she worked at the Agency. You’ve heard Democrats who say that — say today that alone was inappropriate conduct. What was Karl Rove trying to accomplish by having the conversation he did? And does the President think that it was fair of him to do that? Was it fair game?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Now, that’s a question related to an ongoing investigation. The investigation continues, David. I think you know that very well. I’ve responded to that question. And if I were to start commenting on news reports or things related to the investigation, I’m getting into prejudging the outcome of that investigation. I don’t want to do that from this podium. Let’s let the investigation take place, and let’s let the investigators bring all the facts together and draw the conclusions that they draw, and then we will know the facts at that point.
REPORTER: But, Scott, there’s a difference between what’s legal and what’s right. Is what Karl Rove did right?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Well, I mean, you can state the obvious. I understand and appreciate that, and I appreciate you all. I know you all want to get to the bottom of this. I want to get to the bottom of it; the President has said no one wants to get to the bottom of it more than he does. We want to see it come to a successful conclusion. The best way to help the investigation come to a successful conclusion is for me not to get into discussing it from this podium. I don’t think that helps —
REPORTER: Well, wait, wait, wait —
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Wait — I don’t think that helps advance the investigation.
REPORTER: All right, you say you won’t discuss it, but the Republican National Committee and others working, obviously, on behalf of the White House, they put out this Wilson-Rove research and talking points, distributed to Republican surrogates, which include things like, Karl Rove discouraged a reporter from writing a false story. And then other Republican surrogates are getting information such as, Cooper, the Time reporter, called Rove on the pretense of discussing welfare reform. Bill Kristol on Fox News, a friendly news channel to you, said that the conversation lasted for two minutes and it was just at the end that Rove discussed this. So someone is providing this information. Are you, behind the scenes, directing a response to this story?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: You can talk to the RNC about what they put out. I’ll let them speak to that. What I know is that the President directed the White House to cooperate fully with the investigation. And as part of cooperating fully with that investigation, that means supporting the efforts by the investigators to come to a successful conclusion, and that means not commenting on it from this podium.
REPORTER: Well, if —
SCOTT McCLELLAN: No, I understand your question.
REPORTER: Well, Fox News and other Republican surrogates are essentially saying that the conversation lasted for two minutes and that the subject was ostensibly welfare reform. They’re getting that information from here, from Karl Rove.
SCOTT McCLELLAN: And again, you’re asking questions that are related to news reports about an ongoing, continuing investigation. And you’ve had my response on that.
REPORTER: At the very least, though, Scott, could you say whether or not you stand by your statement —
SCOTT McCLELLAN: John, I’ll come back to you if I can.
REPORTER: — of September 29th, 2003, that it is simply not true that Karl Rove disclosed the identity of a C.I.A. operative? Can you stand by that statement?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: John, I look forward to talking about this at some point, but it’s not the appropriate time to talk about those questions while the investigation is continuing.
REPORTER: So should we take that as a yes or a no?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Go ahead, Dick.
REPORTER: Can you explain why —
REPORTER: Scott, this was a statement you made, on the record, 21 months ago. You very confidently asserted to us and to the American people that Rove told you he had nothing to do with it. Can you stand by that statement now?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Yes, and I responded to these questions yesterday. Go ahead, Dick.
REPORTER: Can you explain why the President chose today to break with his usual practice of taking two questions from the American side at events with a foreign leader, and only taking one?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Just last Friday, I think, with Prime Minister Blair, or Thursday, they did the same thing.
REPORTER: The practice in the Oval Office is to take two questions. I’m just curious why —
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Well, we did that last week with Prime Minister Blair, as well. You’re going to have other opportunities to see him this week.
REPORTER: If he had responded to a question today about Karl Rove, would he have gone beyond your stance here of just not commenting?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Well, you’re going to have other opportunities to ask him questions. He takes questions on a fairly regular basis, Dick.
REPORTER: Let me — let me just do what you did a few moments ago and step back from the context of the investigation to the President’s agenda. Does Karl Rove, with all the attention being paid to him now, become a liability to the President, an impediment to his pushing his agenda?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: See, you’re asking all these context in —- or all these questions in the context of the news reports relating to an investigation -—
REPORTER: I’m talking about it now in the larger sense of Rove being the Deputy Chief of Staff.
SCOTT McCLELLAN: We’re continuing to move forward on our agenda, and the —- we’re on the verge of accomplishing some very big things when it comes to the agenda. And -—
REPORTER: But is Karl Rove an impediment now, with all this attention distracting from that push on your agenda?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Everybody who is working here is helping us to advance the agenda, and that includes Karl in a very big way.
REPORTER: Has he apologized to you for telling you he is not involved?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Helen, I’m not going to get into any private discussions.
REPORTER: I mean, he put you on the spot. He put your credibility on the line.
SCOTT McCLELLAN: And, Helen, I appreciate you all wanting to move forward and find the facts relating to this investigation. I want to know all the facts relating to the investigation.
REPORTER: You people are on the record, one quote after another.
SCOTT McCLELLAN: The President wants to get to the bottom of it. And it’s just not appropriate. If you’ll remember back two years ago, or almost two years ago, I did draw a line and I said, we’re just not going to get into commenting on —
REPORTER: You also made comments in defending Mr. Rove.
SCOTT McCLELLAN: We’re just not going to get into commenting on an investigation that continues. And I think you’ve heard me explain why I’m not going to do that. I do want to talk about this —
REPORTER: Do you regret putting yourself out on a limb, Scott?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: I do want to talk about this, and we will talk about it once the investigation is complete.
REPORTER: Do you regret what you said in 2003?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Go ahead.
REPORTER: Do you regret putting yourself so far out on a limb when you don’t know the facts?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: David, you had your opportunity. I’ll try to come back to you if I can, but I think I’ve responded to those questions.
REPORTER: Well, you haven’t responded to that. Do you think you went too far two years ago?
SCOTT McCLELLAN: Go ahead.
AMY GOODMAN: White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan being questioned by reporters for the second day in a row, intensively, around the outing of the undercover C.I.A. operative, Valerie Plame, and Karl Rove’s role in that.
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