In news from the campaign trail, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump both spoke at a national security forum held on the Intrepid, a decommissioned aircraft carrier, in New York City Wednesday night. This is Donald Trump.

Donald Trump: “I’ve always said: Shouldn’t be there, but if we’re going to get out, take the oil. If we would have taken the oil, you wouldn’t have ISIS, because ISIS formed with the power and the wealth of that oil.”

Moderator: “How were we going to take the oil? How were we going to do that?”

Donald Trump: “Just you would leave a certain group behind, and you would take various sections where they have the oil.”

Trump also said U.S. generals have been reduced to “rubble.”