In an interview with ABC Wednesday, Trump was asked if he kept his campaign promise of never lying to the public, to which Trump responded, “When I can, I tell the truth.”

President Donald Trump: “I mean, I do try. I think you try, too. You say things about me that are not necessarily correct. I do try, and I always want to tell the truth. When I can, I tell the truth.”

In the interview, Trump also addressed the size of the Central American caravan, saying, “You have caravans coming up that look a lot larger than it’s reported actually. I’m pretty good at estimating crowd size.” In fact, Trump has proven not to be very good at estimating crowd size, at least not for his own inauguration, which he claimed 1.5 million people attended. In fact, experts say the crowd was significantly smaller.