President Trump’s former campaign manager and chief strategist Steve Bannon was arrested Thursday, accused of defrauding donors to an anti-immigrant nonprofit called We Build the Wall. Bannon was taken by U.S. postal police aboard a Chinese billionaire’s $28 million yacht anchored off the coast of Connecticut. An indictment unsealed by the Southern District of New York alleges Bannon and three others at the nonprofit siphoned hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations into their own pockets to support their lavish lifestyles. The funds were supposed to go toward privately funded sections of a barrier wall to be built along the U.S.-Mexico border. Bannon pleaded not guilty at a Thursday arraignment in Manhattan and was released after posting $5 million bond.

At the White House, President Trump rejected the idea that he’s surrounded by a “culture of lawlessness.” Trump was questioned by NBC’s Geoff Bennett.

Geoff Bennett: “It’s not just Steve Bannon. It’s Roger Stone. It’s Michael Flynn. It’s Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen. What’s that say about your judgment, that these are the kind of people who you are affiliated with” —

President Donald Trump: “Well, I have no idea” —

Geoff Bennett: — “and the culture of lawlessness” —

President Donald Trump: “Yeah, yeah.”

Geoff Bennett: — “around people who were involved in the leadership of your 2016 campaign?”

President Donald Trump: “Well, there was great lawlessness in the Obama administration. They spied on our campaign illegally.”