We speak with journalist, academic and author Steven Thrasher about his new book, The Overseer Class, in which he explores how members of historically marginalized groups rise to positions of power within institutions in lieu of structural change. He identifies Black police officers as a prominent example of this phenomenon. As public opinion in the United States has grown more critical of law enforcement, “Black cops are kind of rehabilitating police departments, as are women cops and LGBTQ cops,” Thrasher says. “Those are the people who I call overseers, the ones who rule between the ruling class and the working class.”