President Obama spoke openly about racism in the United States during a podcast with comedian Marc Maron published on Monday. In the interview, recorded two days after the Charleston massacre, Obama used the “N-word.”

President Obama: “Racism, we are not cured of, clearly. And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say 'nigger' in public. That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It’s not just a matter of overt discrimination. Societies don’t overnight completely erase everything that happened 200 to 300 years prior.”

We’ll talk more about Obama’s remarks after headlines.