At the White House, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended the administration’s immigration policies, telling reporters, “It is very biblical to enforce the law.” That prompted this exchange between Sanders and reporter Brian Karem of Sentinel Newspapers.

Brian Karem: “Come on, Sarah, you’re a parent. Don’t you have any empathy for what these people are going through? They have less than you do.”

Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Brian, God, settle down!”

Brian Karem: “Sarah, come on. Seriously. Seriously.”

Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “I’m trying to be serious, but I’m not going to have you yell out of turn.”

Brian Karem: “But you’re sitting there telling us it’s a law, and they have—that these people have nothing. They come over here with nothing.”

Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Hey, Brian, I know you want to get some more TV time, but that’s not what this is about.”

Brian Karem: “It’s not that! It’s not about that. It’s about you answering a question, Sarah. Honestly, answer the question. It’s a serious question. These people have nothing. They come to the border with nothing. And you throw children in cages. You’re a parent! You’re a parent of young children. Don’t you have any empathy for what they go through?”

Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Jill, go ahead.”

Thursday’s tense White House press briefing came after CBS News reported that Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her deputy press secretary, Raj Shah, are preparing to leave their jobs. Sanders has denied the rumor.